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Evolution vs Creationism

The debate between Evolution and Creationism has been going on a long time. What are your thoughts on the issue?

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06-02-2010 11:26 PM
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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

I honestly don't believe in either of them, I know that evolution is "proven" but i honestly just don't believe it, I don't really believe in anything.

06-02-2010 11:38 PM
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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

And to think I was looking for an excuse not to fall asleep.

I have to side with Evolution on this one.
I think most here (that might be premature, since I haven't been on in a while) know that I'm a godless heathen an atheist, so that sort of leaves one choice for me here.

The way I feel is this: the idea that any God or gods created the entirety of the Universe, in its vast unknowns, just to surround the Earth, which said deity(ies) made to house us, His/Her/Their favorite species, is downright selfish. While the idea that humanity started off as a single-celled organism may not exactly be flattering or ideal, it's scientifically the most likely scenario, based on evidence given by experimentation in micro-evolution, backed further by experiments in natural selection.
Trust me, I agree it would be nice to wrap up existence in a nice summary of 'God did it,' but that's taking the easy way out. It requires no critical thinking and is most likely supported due to tradition. The fact of the matter is that biological creatures always change to fit their environment. That's basic survival. When Creationism was first proposed, it was the dominating theory because there was no real reason to believe otherwise. But the... erm, evolution of Evolution has made Creationism obsolete. People still believe it simply because (at least in good old 'merica) we stick to tradition even in the face of uncomfortable logical conclusions.

This was a basic summary, and I'd be happy to expound upon any of it.

GrapE Wrote:
I honestly don't believe in either of them, I know that evolution is "proven" but i honestly just don't believe it, I don't really believe in anything.


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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

Some God created stuff which evolved eventually. So, both... probably.

06-03-2010 12:31 PM
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You guys have such riveting, concise and intricate arguments


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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

JV 469 Wrote:
You guys have such riveting, concise and intricate arguments


Bahahaha.

Well, creationism to me is like a homosexual to Texas. It really doesn't work for me. You're telling me some god put us here, completely focused on us, and has not done anything since we could record visual information? Doesn't work for me.

Evolution is true. Like science, it is there. It's happened, and there's proof. Think of morphological or embryological (lol spellcheck says it's wrong) alikeness, there's downright proof. Look at Darwinism and the sparrows and jays that all turned out to be finches, it's there. Where's proof of creationism?

I could write more, but like JV, I feel like sleep.

06-05-2010 12:39 AM
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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

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I could write more, but like JV, I feel like sleep.


There's that, and there's so much to say that it's not worth saying until someone brings up the argument.
I'm just waiting for a well-meaning Creationist to come in here...


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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

I still think evolution is kinda stupid and not 100% guaranteed true, however it definetly makes more sense then creationsim. I was actually a firm believer in Christianity for 16 years, but then I realized how fake it is =\ The main thing about religion is that it is used in order to explain how the world worked when mankind was first starting out, they didn't understand science like we do know so they just made theories of how it all came to be. I also see no evidence that a god exists. At all.

Also apologies if I offend anyone :x it just makes me mad


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06-05-2010 01:06 AM
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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

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I still think evolution is kinda stupid and not 100% guaranteed true, however it definetly makes more sense then creationsim. I was actually a firm believer in Christianity for 16 years, but then I realized how fake it is =\ The main thing about religion is that it is used in order to explain how the world worked when mankind was first starting out, they didn't understand science like we do know so they just made theories of how it all came to be. I also see no evidence that a god exists. At all.

Also apologies if I offend anyone :x it just makes me mad


So you believe in neither?

Well, it's true. We as humans are the only recorded species to date that are self-aware. ever heard of the red dot experiment? If you paint a red dot on a baby human's cheek and place him in front of a mirror, he will touch his own cheek. Mark a dot on a dog and place him in front of a mirror, he'll bark at himself thinking of another dog. We're the only ones that know we're here.

So of course, everyone's question is "what put us here?" No one had the answer a good 4000 years ago, so they made up the idea of this deity that had it all in his head. That was the birth of creationism. But evolution was not invented. It was discovered, and that makes it more true.

06-05-2010 01:13 AM
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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

No, I partially believe evolution but not completely. Maybe it's cause I don't want to, but it does make sense.


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06-05-2010 01:18 AM
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No, I partially believe evolution but not completely. Maybe it's cause I don't want to, but it does make sense.


What part don't you believe?


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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

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EraOfGames Wrote:
No, I partially believe evolution but not completely. Maybe it's cause I don't want to, but it does make sense.


What part don't you believe?

I guess to say that we (as in humans) came from less developed organisms because we're vastly superior to everything on the planet, pretty much. I mean I suppose evolution made us this way but, idk lol..


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RE: Evolution vs Creationism

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JV 469 Wrote:

EraOfGames Wrote:
No, I partially believe evolution but not completely. Maybe it's cause I don't want to, but it does make sense.


What part don't you believe?

I guess to say that we (as in humans) came from less developed organisms because we're vastly superior to everything on the planet, pretty much. I mean I suppose evolution made us this way but, idk lol..


I find what you're saying incomprehensible O_o

You answered your question in one way, but I suppose your answer isn't the one you're looking for. Think of everything as a 1905-old-style assembly line. It moves up and up and up.When the first product made of 20 parts (using twenty workers each in their own part and slot) is completed, it is taken off the assembly line.

When part 1 is in slot 13 of the assembly line, part 2 is in slot 12. Part three is in slot 11, it goes on. We are in slot twenty. When we were in slot 13 or so, the monkeys of today were in slot 12. Today, they're in slot 19, ready to become dominant.

Eventually, something will happen that will alter the world drastically, ending the dominant species' reign. However, being humans that can alter said world, we may live through it. I know that what I said may not make sense until it's read carefully, but I think it may be understandable.

06-05-2010 01:40 AM
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Ira Wrote:
Think of everything as a 1905-old-style assembly line. It moves up and up and up.When the first product made of 20 parts (using twenty workers each in their own part and slot) is completed, it is taken off the assembly line.


Evolution doesn't always just add, though. It changes, molds, and takes away to fit environmental changes.


EraOfGames Wrote:
I guess to say that we (as in humans) came from less developed organisms because we're vastly superior to everything on the planet, pretty much. I mean I suppose evolution made us this way but, idk lol..


That's pretty much the entirety of human evolution that you don't believe.
But that comes from the ego problem I mentioned earlier. Most people cling to alternate theories because they don't want to think their common ancestor was a microscopic organism, not because the alternate theories make more sense. (Which they really don't, scientifically speaking.)


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I'll admit, I find evolution interesting. But, I don't believe in it 100%. I go to church, I go to a christian school, and some of the things they've done and the things that we do every day I find it hard not to imagine that something's not there, helping us. If you find you have nothing left to give, what makes us keep going? some would say human determination, but if that's just it I wouldn't want to keep going. Humans are flawed, i don't want to live for myself just alone. I don't believe that humans are perfect. But then again, I'm not entirely a Christian either. I haven't accepted jesus as my savior (what has to be done in order to become a Christian, for those who didn't know) and after reading the bible once or twice, I find it kind of hard that a bunch of people could have just thought it all up one day and written it up. So I'm leaning more towards Creationism, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of Evolution either. i guess I'm just afraid to think of the fact that when no one is there for you, there really is no one there. at least when your a christian you have a God to lean on, fake or not. Does that make us weak? I don't know for sure.




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